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Advance Wars DS: Recycling by CaptainInvincible Advance Wars DS: Recycling by CaptainInvincible
I love the Advance Wars series. If you don't, you won't get this.

Just a little dig at the most blatantly direct recycling of character concept.

Characters are copyright Nintendo and Intelligent Systems.
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:iconpvzpro:
PvZpro Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Flak doesn't seem to like the idea of being crammed in a robot that's smaller than he is, and having to be called "Jugger."

:iconflakplz::iconsaysplz: What's a jugger, again?
:iconlashplz::iconsaysplz: Trolololol....
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Recoome5555 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013
now we just have to find Adder...
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:iconkeybladeknight99:
KeybladeKnight99 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012  Student Writer
HAhAHAHA! Oh I get it! :D
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:iconohaiderbob:
OHAIDERBOB Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
So THAT'S the next experiment he promised to be a guinea pig in? Huh.
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:iconfffanboyx:
FFfanboyX Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
So THAT's where Flak was in the campaign!
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:iconbleachrisotto:
BleachRisotto Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011
I LOVE IT.
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Someguyfromcrowd Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2010  Student General Artist
Heh, love his expression.

"...Kindle ammo too?"
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:iconnoobieboobie:
noobieboobie Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2010
:D
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:iconlordhiro:
LordHiro Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2010   Writer
Wow, this is funny XD
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:iconcaptainvigilante:
CaptainVigilante Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2010  Professional General Artist
Heheh yeah, though it was the actual cast of COs that did make it a lot of fun - I mean Days of Ruin was ok and all but... I missed the good ol days. Kinda happy to see the...

horribly campy stuff back.
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Nuditon Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2010  Student Digital Artist
xDDD I get it! I love advance wars too :D I did a sasha and jake fanart hehe, the next: Lash >.<
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Uminchu808 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2009
Black hole gets weirder everytime... I guess my 'advanced critique' would be, try not to make them too funny or to serious? Eh, it looks nice haha.
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LughOnG Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2008
I always tought that Flak was inside that crappy robot or Flak died and Lash took they abilities and put it in a robot or something like that...

XD
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EUCWMPCFH Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2008
I allways wondered why Koal was an upgrade of adder but Jugger was the exact same as Flak...

Oh well they are all idiotic excuses for C.O.'s (Koal isn't so much), so I think that character reciclyng is acceptable.
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aabcehm Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2014
Strictly speaking, while Jugger follows the same concept as Flak, they aren't EXACTLY the same. 

Both have the whole "normally strikes hard, but also has a large variance that sometimes causes a weak hit" thing, but Jugger has a larger variance than Flak; he can strike harder if he's lucky, but his unluckiest strikes are even weaker than Flak's unlucky strikes.   
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Lucario-X Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2008
hmmm.
that explains a lot.
i thought i've seen that guy before.
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king-newmic Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2008
ahhhhahaha lol so thats what happend to 'em:)
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Perrydotto Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Sweet one! In my opinion, you've drawn the characters way too tall and not broad enogu, though ...
But I love the idea! Keep at it, perhaps you can redraw this one day ^^
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:iconzapinc:
Zapinc Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2008
Yes, flak is indeed jugger
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Fear is in the eyes of the beholder
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Fireblast133 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2007
heh, i actually had a set of ideas for original CO's. The only rip off part i would say would be the name. This one i just happened to notice, noone really excelled in rain. So i came up with this guy.

Olan

Army: Blue Moon

Existing skills: All around. Gains a 10% def boost and one extra movement point for all units in rain. Rains at random when around.

CO power: Rainy Day - causes rain until Olan's next turn. adds 15% offensive boost and 20% defensive boost (10% from rain included there). gains one movement point for all units (1 from rain included) Movement penalty on all terrain is lessened by one (so a wood for recon is normally three, now is two) - 4 small stars

Super CO power: Rainy Weekend - causes rain until two more turns for Olan have passed. 40% offensive boost and 30% def (10% from rain included). Movement penalty for all terrain is reduced to 1 for all units. gains two extra movement points for all units (1 from rain included). - 6 large stars


I know it's incomplete, and he's a little imbalanced, but he's still in the works.
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earthlingsonfire Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2007
Haha :D
I really wish they'd come up with better ideas for Jugger and Zak...
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Seffora- Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2007   Writer
It's so true XD
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stupiedmariobros Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2007
poor flack
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the-human-puppet Featured By Owner May 8, 2007
FLAK was jugger!?!?!?!?!? NANI (japenese for what) !?!?!?!
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lost-tyrant Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:laughing: Jugger, Hawke and Andy seem to be my
favs though. great picture=D
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Buttetsu-Batou Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2006
This explains a lot..... XD
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Dr-Baconman Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2006
SO THAT'S THE REASON.
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ralphkingofthewolves Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2006
so that explains why jugger and flak hav the same CO powers.
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EvilJoel Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2006
Hehe, glad to see I'm not the only one to notice that. AW:DS shows that they're running out of ideas for creative OC powers, which is results in recycles and rather plain, boring powers, like Grimm. But I actually like Jugger's design and personality better than Flak's, so I don't really mind. Very nice picture, by the way, but you might want to do something about the poses; they lean a lot.
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CaptainInvincible Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2006
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. You're right about the angles too - it looks like Flak/Jugger is about to fall over altogether!

Thanks - useful critique is ALWAYS welcome.
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CharacterAssassin Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2005
I played advanced wars and I don;t get it?

The colours are pretty good.
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:iconcaptaininvincible:
CaptainInvincible Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2005
Thanks, I'm really happy with how my colouring/shading is improving.

The gag: Jugger from Advance Wars DS pretty much is Flak from Advance Wars 2, right down to the power descriptions.
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irlchrusty Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2005
Oh yes, complete ripoff. Even the character descriptions are the same! (and pretty similar for Koal and Adder too).

Although from reading on the interweb from people who spent a lot more time investigating than me, theres some slight differences in how the CO powers work.

Seems Kindle and Von Bolt were the only "new" Black Hole COs ...

Ah well ... still a great game.
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:iconcaptaininvincible:
CaptainInvincible Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2005
Yeah, there's a slight difference in the dispersion percentages. But the basic vibe is directly the same (and at least you can tell Adder isn't dressed up as Koal - too short!)

A great game indeed!
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